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A Review of Toughman Comments

 

There is only one question you must ask. 

Question:Is Toughman safe? 

Answer:No.

 

What is Toughman?

Toughman is an event where people of any shape, size, or physical condition are allowed to put on boxing gloves and try to knockout the other person in only 3 minutes.  The contest consists of three one minutes round geared to ensure that the participants go for the maximum effect the knockout. 

 

The participant must sign a series of papers without proper explanation designed to protect the promoter.  Their background is minimally checked, and their history is never tracked.  This has allowed professional and highly trained boxers to enter the contest when state statutes and Toughman own rules do not allow it.

 

The participants are people from next door, as Art Dore describes. “Toughman Contest offers the common man or woman the chance to prove his or her mettle.”  A Toughman bout consists of matching those who are not trained or who are not in proper physical condition against professional and trained fighters.  Toughman is where concern for safety is not met for the purpose of entertaining an audience.  Ohio’s own investigation uncovered this very issue. 

 

“Toughman is a Friday night bar brawl crossed with a boxing match," said Little Rock, Arkansas based promoter Lydia Robertson.  Lydia Robertson is a partner of Art Dore.  He has been described as the girlfriend of Art Dore, based on an article written about their partnership for new wonder treatment called Snore-No-More spray they were marketing in 1999.

 

Steve Coppler, another Toughman promoter and partner, referee, and website newsletter writer, testified to the California Commission that Toughman was built for someone with little or no skills. 

 

Behind Toughman

Art Dore, Murray Sutherland, and several promoters throughout the country own and operate Toughman.  These promoters exchange titles that allow them enter into a state with different statute conditions and requirement.  For instance Lydia Robertson has represented herself as the Southern Coordinator of Toughman, as the owner of On the Move Advertising, and as the designated representative of Art Dore’s nonprofit the ABAA, in order to obtain or attempt to obtain a boxing/promoters license.

 

Outright Lies?!

In several deaths that involve Toughman participants the medical doctor presented to the participants and the audience turned out to be nothing more than a farce.  The medical doctor has turned out to be a chiropractor or a physician assistant each without any ringside training.  In January 2005, the ABAA, tried to present under oath to the Florida Boxing Commission a doctor not licensed in the state as part of their application to become a sanctioning body within the state.

 

From the Article, Toughman Bouts With Danger 5-18-03, in response to the question why do at times Toughman not have a medical doctor present, "We prefer to get a guy that has a lot of experience at actual fights," Dore said. "But sometimes we're not able to get doctors that have a lot of experience."  He stated this before Stacy Young was killed in June of 2003, and after 2 deaths in the 8 months prior.

 

From the article, Contest is tough on a man, 3-28-97, Wendy Dore, daughter of Toughman founder Art Dore and president of Adorable Promotion, said “the comedy of errors is part of the appeal.  The most common injuries are bloody noses and cracked ribs,” Ms. Dore said. “No one has died in 20 years of Toughman competition,” she said.  Yet by 1999, there had been several deaths.

 

In response to the fact that some fights are run by Dore’s nonprofit, the American Boxing and Athletic Association (ABAA), "It's an amateur event, and strictly not for profit -- all the proceeds go to a nonprofit foundation," Dore said, naming the statute stipulations necessary to not have to obtain an Idaho license.  The nonprofit agency, according to Guidestar, has never paid any business taxes on the monies earned from boxing which is outside their primary purpose.  This demonstrates that Dore will do anything to bypass state statute.

 

Even now under Dore's (Toughman) rules, contestants must live within 75 miles of an event.  Steve Burress lived over 200 miles from the Ohio event.  They ignored their own rule.  How can you trust a firm when they will not even follow their own published rules.

 

From the California Commission minutes dated April 20, 2002, Commissioner Ducheny asked Mr. Dore if a contestant has won five fights, would he then no longer be able to compete.  Mr. Dore answered that the Toughman rules state that a contestant cannot have won more than five sanctioned amateur bouts.  But after Stacy Young death and only when it was found that Sarah Kobie, Stacy’s competitor, had more than five wins Art Dore stated in his telling police detectives that an official “win” meant a victory in a two-day event, not an individual fight.  A complete contradiction and lie to the statement in California.  What this means is that Art Dore will choose to apply the published Toughman rules in whatever fashion to hide the truth, even if it means to misstate his own rule.

 

Toughman’s Response to the Law

In the article Fighting fatality ruled an accident, 8-12-2003, Art Dore is quoted as saying “There is no law that says you have to use anything,” in response to a question about statutes and laws applied to Toughman Contests.  What this means is that Art Dore will use minimal or no safety precautions when there are no laws requiring him to do so or if he can find a loophole in state statute. 

 

Further, Art Dore considers a death to be part of the show.  “I’ve done thousands of these shows, and it’s tragic, but these things just happen.”  So Art Dore in this statement demonstrates an understanding of how a death “just happens” and that he further understands that there is a high risk to the participants.  Combine this understanding with the prior paragraph of knowing failing to provide a medical doctor, or competent referee, or even to follow the common rule of the sport, he expects law enforcement’s lacks the understanding of what is constructive murder and what can be defined as a sport allows him to not be prosecuted.  Mastery of obfuscation allows him to hide from the law. 

 

He further demonstrates his understanding of the risks.  Art Dore, states in the article, You want to fight, 10-13-03, “The object of a boxing match is to make the other guy unable to fight back. It can lead to death. Why are people so surprised when someone gets hurt? After all, that’s the object of he game.”

 

Toughman public relations officer stated, from the article KnockOut,  “The contests are not as dangerous as people say they are”, English said.  English has also stated “Toughman would welcome legislation. Please, give us all the rules you want. We want to follow the rules,” she said.  Yet Art Dore has hired lobbyists to stop legislation and has even gone as far as trying to get named, in 2002, as a federal agency. 

 

What do the best officials in the US think about the Toughman Contest.

From the article, Toughman action a ‘rush’ for fighters dangerous to opponents, Barry Druxman, president of the International Professional Ring Officials believes “there could be no safeguards that could make this a safe event.”  From the same article, Dr. Antoine Johnson of Aberdeen, a member of American Association of Ringside Physicians said, “the rules in Toughman are not strictly enforces and they have shown that the show must go on.” 

 

From the Article, Toughman competition returns to action at TECO, 9-27-03, “We’ve tried to get the Florida Boxing Commission to sanction us for years,” said Lydia Robertson.  “I have no idea as to why the commission hasn’t stepped to the forefront.  This is not no-holds-barred boxing.”  But when Toughman had the opportunity to get the Florida Boxing Commission involved by providing a prize of $51 dollars to the winner they choice not to do so.  In Ohio the prize is $1,000 but Toughman knowingly did not provide this in Florida because they did not want commission oversight.  In response to paying the fighters $51 dollars, Robertson said that “the contest would have to be revamped to do that.” 

 

From the article, Fighters line up unfazed by death, 9-26-03, Lydia Robertson stated “We’re safer than high school football,” Lydia Robertson told reports “but the state refuses to acknowledge that.”  “We’re an easy mark.  We’re not coercing people to fight.  Whatever happened to personal responsibility on the part of anybody over the age of 18?”  “It’s dangerous to bungee jump, it’s dangerous to jump out of an airplane,” Robertson said.  “And this is as old as the Roman Coliseum.”  Unfortunately on several occasions Toughman has lied about providing medical doctors, competent trained referee being present, they have even ignored the pleas from the boxer and the corner to stop a fight.

 

In an editorial Art Dore wrote, News punchy in Toughman editorial, Feb 9 2004, he states, “The Toughman Contest requires more safety precautions that used in either amateur or professional boxing.”  What he stated is a total fabrication since Toughman has the highest death rate per actual time boxing.  Head-gear according to everyone associated with boxing knows that it only protects from cuts not the power of the blow, and gloves only protect the fingers from breaking.  Real safety comes in the form on limitations on the number of fights per night, proper training and the maximum allowed minutes per week, combined with proper regulations. 

 

"I believe that the Toughman bouts are probably the most dangerous that we have had here in Nevada," says Dr. Margaret Goodman, the leading neurologist and ringside physician who heads the Nevada Athletic Commission's medical advisory board. She has served as a doctor for both Toughman and mainstream professional boxing in her state.

 

From the Article, Toughman Bouts With Danger 5-18-03,"The referee is centermost in protecting the health and safety of the fighters," said New Jersey Boxing Commissioner Larry Hazzard, who has refereed hundreds of bouts, including world championships.  "When you get people in there that are not trained, that have little or no skills, then your problems triple."

 

 

So what is to be done

What is needed is the same as 24 other states have accomplished.  Ohio must follow in the same manner as those other leading states have done, as the director of the American Boxing Commission has called upon over three years ago, as the American College of Sports Medicine has called for, and as leading doctors, trainers, and professional fighters all understand and have pleaded for, it is time to place strong regulation to ban this type of elimination style contest within the state of Ohio. 

 

Ohio has demonstrated based on the finding of the Ohio Inspector General and now the death of Steve Burress that Ohio and its commission cannot ensure the safety of the participants due to the inherent dangers within the nature of the Toughman Contest concept.  That is the fact you cannot deny.

 

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